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 Post subject: Re: 132mph - the return of the Kursaal Flyer
PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:06 pm 
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Hell must have nerves of steel.......well done.


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 Post subject: Re: 132mph - the return of the Kursaal Flyer
PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:11 pm 
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Wee Mark wrote:
That really is amazing!!!..What a speed...


Totally agree with that statement! I used to have an RGV250M that had a top speed matching this sprinter. Suzuki had a huge foundation behind them with hi-tech japanese technology to achieve their results though. Hats of to Keith and his team for this achievement 8)


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 Post subject: Re: 132mph - the return of the Kursaal Flyer
PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:33 pm 
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flippin eck :shock: well done


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That's astonishing :shock: bloody well done, quite a day for world records yesterday :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: 132mph - the return of the Kursaal Flyer
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Well done that is fantastic


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Brilliant Keith .... well done mate....... Now........ where's your group 4!!??


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What an incredible achievement :shock: .


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 Post subject: Re: 132mph - the return of the Kursaal Flyer
PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:36 am 
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mark-b wrote:
...... My Suzuki had a huge foundation behind it with hi-tech japanese technology to achieve similar results .... 8)


Keith's hi tech machine featured top quality parts sourced from Japan. Well I say that, it had a front wheel from a Honda Melody. Not exactly top quality brakes, as the rear drum was operated by a thumb-lever. It is probably a good job that he had plenty of stopping-space.

I'll pass-on your congratulations to Keith when I speak to him later.


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Is there more info available about this? Other threads? Other sites?


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 Post subject: Re: 132mph - the return of the Kursaal Flyer
PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:22 pm 
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As Clarkson said on top gear last sunday......Fantastic...Fantastic.....Fantastic!
I am just completely gobsmacked by the performance of Keith's untried machine.
I know there was a fairly strong SW wind blowing which will have helped as the riders usually run west to east but this is some 15mph faster than anything thats gone before.
Unfortunately this is not a world record, for two reasons, scooters do not have a separate class under ACU rules so would have to compete against bikes for a world record and in order to claim any record Keith would have had to do a return pass in the other direction to eliminate any effect the wind had on his previous run. Finally all this would have to be done with the ACU in attendance to verify the results.
Nevertheless this result is just amazing and my congratulations go to Keith and the team.
I would imagine anything over 120mph was fairly hairy!!!
I hope he replies to this thread with some timing info and photos/info on the bike.
One more thing.
A story about the preparation of the bike and the weekends performance will make good reading in one of the magazines.
It just shows that Lambretta's continue to set new levels of speed and performance with the dogged determination people like Keith have.
Burt would have loved it!!


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No pictures or photos yet - I hope someone got something :(


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 Post subject: Re: 132mph - the return of the Kursaal Flyer
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Any pics will probably look a bit like this...VVVVVRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMmmmmmm........ :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: 132mph - the return of the Kursaal Flyer
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I've had a chat with Keith tonight. Like everything else to do with this story, it is a little unbelievable.

On the first run, the bike was going well, but coughed at just on the approach to the timing lights. Keith pushed on but felt that it was not a great run and returned to the pits a little despondent. Keith's support-man Brendan commented that it looked really fast, but Keith explained about the cough and thought that they ought to have a look at it.

While fettling the engine, someone came over and congratulated them on the first run. They were pleased that someone had taken the trouble, but Keith was so focused on getting the engine running right, he thought no more of it.

On the second run, the scooter was not running as well, and he aborted the run and returned to the pits. Keith and Brendan fiddled a little more and another guy came over and mentioned 132mph from the first run. Keen to get out again, Keith made a third run and melted the piston in the process. Bugger, and still one whole day of the meeting to go.

With no other piston on hand, Keith called Graham Best in Southend and agreed to borrow Mikey's group 4 barrel that was sitting in the shop. So Keith drove from York to Southend and collected the barrel. He slept at home in Southend and got up at 4.30 the next morning to return to Elvingdon and fit the barrel to the Flyer.

The new barrel was 20cc smaller and even though the holes were big, they weren't as big as was needed to do the business on the sprint track. Keith got a few good runs, but didn't even top 100mph with the group 4 barrel as the gearing had to be shortened to suit a barrel tuned for a very different use.

Anyway, the guys finally thought that they ought to check out this first run from Saturday, only to discover that he had reached 132mph. Keith was surprised, but he was delighted with the way that the engine pulled really hard in 4th gear, so perhaps it wasn't a complete surprise. They asked the timer to confirm that it wasn't a freak reading, but he was happy that this was an accurate figure when he compared it with other machines that were run at the same time.

In fact, the info had been on the organiser's website since the previous night but Keith had had no time to check, or even the inclination. It also meant that Keith's overnight trip to Southend was unnecessary.

Will it be at Woodbridge? Well, we will see, but right now, what Keith needs is a good rest. He's knackered.


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 Post subject: Re: 132mph - the return of the Kursaal Flyer
PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:47 pm 
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I've done that trip (York to Essex and back in one day) and it's not fun. I wouldn't dream of doing anything like trying to ride at 132mph after doing so.


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I once drove from Luton to York in 2 hours in my old GTiR :twisted: .


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